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Both the Tom McClintock and Charlie Brown camps say their candidates are primed to duke it out verbally on the debate dais.
But just where those debates will take place, how many there will be and what format they will take on is still the subject of, well, debate.
Brown, the Democratic Party candidate in the 4th District congressional election, has proposed a series of four debates in four different counties within the sprawling Northern California district.
McClintock, the GOP candidate vying to win the post now held by veteran Republican congressman John Doolittle, R-Roseville, has suggested as many as nine debates in nine counties preceding the Nov. 4 vote.
Brown issued what he described as a challenge to McClintock on Thursday to commit to a four-debate series in October. Todd Stenhouse, spokesman for the Democratic candidate, said the challenge was made to get McClintock’s campaign staff to stop “dragging its heels.”
Stan Devereux, who has served as McClintock's spokesman in trying to hammer out a debate schedule and format, said that the Brown challenge came two months after McClintock initiated attempts to set up a series of meetings. Three face-to-face meetings had already occurred and another was scheduled for Thursday – the day of the Brown challenge, Devereux said.
The McClintock spokesman said he had to bow out of the Thursday meeting to attend a memorial service and was “surprised” when the news release was issued by Brown challenging his candidate to the four debates.
Stenhouse said that initial talks were tainted when McClintock brought in a former Doolittle staff member in an attempt to manipulate the process rather than serve as facilitator. When false rumors began spreading on the Internet by McClintock supporters about the debate situation it was time to go public with Brown’s position to quell distortions, he said.
“We approached the process in exceptionally good faith,” Stenhouse said.
The debate before the debate between camps goes deeper than the squabble over locales and number of debates.
McClintock favors what is described as the Lincoln-Douglas debate format while Stenhouse said Brown favors the town-hall style. The town-hall format would allow questions directly from the floor while the Lincoln-Douglas debate includes written questions from the audience. There are several other differences – and similarities – in the formats.
Either way, it would be a departure from two years ago when the public was shut out of the lone debate Doolittle would assent to. That debate occurred in a closed-set environment at a Rocklin TV studio, with even reporters prevented from entering.
Brown narrowly lost to Doolittle in his first attempt at public office. The congressman said in January that he would not run again.
“This race is shaping up to be among the most closely watched in America this year,” Stenhouse said, in a statement accompanying Brown’s challenge. “We are committed to partnering with community organizations and media outlets across the Sacramento, Chico and Reno markets to ensure every voter is able to access every debate.”
While McClintock prefers the Lincoln-Douglas format, he did debate in other forms during the primary election, Devereux said.
Devereux said Stenhouse and he had talked Tuesday about reconnecting and continuing to finalize details of debates and how to unveil those details.
Both candidates want to hone in on specific issues during the debates. Devereux said his candidate would agree to a format that would not allow personal characterizations or attacks.
“It would just give two individuals a chance to go back and forth on America’s important issues,” he said.
Offshore oil drilling would be one topic McClintock would like to see given a focus for a debate, Devereux said.
Brown has proposed that the first three debates be about national security, the economy and one other domestic policy area. He’s also calling for weekly debates starting Oct. 8 , with the first one in Placer County. Further debates would take place in El Dorado County and Nevada County. A longer debate in a northern county still to be determined would finish off the series.
Devereux said the challenge is surprising because it’s about something he thought was moving ahead.
“It’s about getting these two gentlemen together for discussion of issues as often as we can, depending on their schedules,” he said. “We’re still hopeful that we can increase the number of debates so that every county would have an opportunity to hear more than 30-second sound bites.”
The Journal’s Gus Thomson can be reached at gust@goldcountrymedia.com.
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Make them nine debates. That way we can see who runs out of things to say first or who flip flops the most, depending on audience.
Glass Jaw Charlie trying to score some points...
Charlie Brown is looking for a series of four debates, probably in September or October. McCai... McClintock prefers that they take place sometime after his nap but before Wheel of Fortune.
Gus, typo, paragraph 6. Stan Devereux is NOT the Brown Campaign Spokesman.
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Tom McClintock, of course, would dearly love to bore everybody to death in every county in the district with his endless pontificating about Who Is More Moral Than Thou.
I would submit to the voting public, based on McClintock's obsessions, that this man does not realize the rest of the world now inhabits the 21st century and not the 19th, that the Civil War has been over for 143 years, that the Confederacy lost, that Lincoln freed the slaves, and that buying and selling people and treating them like chattel is wrong. It is wrong from a moral standpoint and it is wrong from a spiritual standpoint and it degrades one's relationship with a Higher Power.
When Mr McClintock is ready to accept that the rest of the American Public HAS NO DESIRE TO GO BACK TO THAT SYSTEM which is of the time period he persists in romanticizing, then maybe he would realize that We the Residents of The District he is wont to use as his excuse to go to Washington and re institute more forms of financial slavery has no patience for his endless reams of words about nothing. Hence no need for a Lincoln Douglas format. Let him talk to himself.
Let me tell all of you reading this now what happened during a Doolittle style "town hall" and how he manipulated the process. Doolittle did a few of these after the 2006 election, in early 2007. Written questions were submitted in advance by the audience. The questions were then gathered and READ to Mr Doolittle by another Republican who was screening them for content. Doolittle then deigned to actually speak to the question writer.
Doolittle had sent out emails in advance to certain constituents, priming them to demand answers to certain topics he had prepared canned responses to.
Of course, McClintock would like to prime his audience in advance and then sit there for hours hacking on and on about things he knows nothing about nor shows any inclination to learn anything, because the only reason he thinks he's important is that he is stuck mentally in the mid 1800's, and if ONLY Gen. Robert E Lee had gotten it correctly, he and his cohorts could still buy and sell human beings legally and be able to quote Bible text to rationalize it.
But for right now, we still have the Republican President flaunting and defying the Constitution and a chance to try to put it right by electing people who live in real time and are willing to solve OUR problems, not Lincoln's. We still have the chance to tell McClintock that if he's that entranced with post Civil War America (for the Love of G*d, given the amount of human suffering and pain, how can ANY person with half a functional brain think post apocalypse is a good thing ? ) he should buy himself a woolen grey outfit and go to CW re enactments on weekends and get himself a regular day job. And he could take Doolittle with him. I have never seen either man indicate the least amount of understanding about WHAT IS WRONG about having a Republican President who mocks his people and actively tries to make more of them poor.
People are losing their homes, their jobs, they can't afford food nor the fuel to go to work and this idiot wants to take us to Post Civil War 1866, not even pausing at Great Depression 1933. My ancestors said it sucked. Those who can not remember the past are doomed to carpetbaggers.
Canyonrat, nice rant. I guess some people like to type.
McClintock will win every debate that he is allowed to speak at.
If I were him, I would ask Charlie to respond to the question... "Did you attend a rally at Stephen Pearcy's home where a US soldier was hung in effigy to protest the war?"
Brown refuses to address the question because he realized in retrospect that winning the anti-war fringe vote would not get him the 4th CD. I am sure that in hind-sight, he regrets doing it.
Nobody buys the hanged dummy conspiracy. You're starting to embarrass yourself.